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	<title>Comments on: Sirsi-Dynix vs Open Source&#160;Software</title>
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		<title>By: Renae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought this comment was interesting: &quot;Most libraries already have an ILS and receive upgrades as part of their maintenance contract from us...&quot;

We recently &quot;upgraded&quot; our version of Workflows. It is completely different that previous versions, but training costs hundreds of pounds, which our library can&#039;t afford. This works against our productivity, as it is taken us much too long to familiarize ourselves with the brand new software. I find that upgrades with open source software are easier to manage and do not require scads more training to get to grips with upgrades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this comment was interesting: &#8220;Most libraries already have an ILS and receive upgrades as part of their maintenance contract from us&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>We recently &#8220;upgraded&#8221; our version of Workflows. It is completely different that previous versions, but training costs hundreds of pounds, which our library can&#8217;t afford. This works against our productivity, as it is taken us much too long to familiarize ourselves with the brand new software. I find that upgrades with open source software are easier to manage and do not require scads more training to get to grips with upgrades.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had been successfully avoiding jumping into this mess, but.. oh well, I added my comments (dbs) to the Google Doc, based on my experiences as a Unicorn customer, an Evergreen adopter, a proprietary software developer, an open source software developer, an Evergreen committer... it&#039;s all mixed up, but hopefully it&#039;s a useful contribution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had been successfully avoiding jumping into this mess, but.. oh well, I added my comments (dbs) to the Google Doc, based on my experiences as a Unicorn customer, an Evergreen adopter, a proprietary software developer, an open source software developer, an Evergreen committer&#8230; it&#8217;s all mixed up, but hopefully it&#8217;s a useful contribution.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous Coward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous Coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of our sayings round here has been &quot;What does that Latin mean? Ex = out of; Libris = library. So let&#039;s get them out of the library!&quot;

The amount of bugs in the latest major Voyager upgrade in pretty amazing. And it&#039;s continually disappointing to be told that you have to upgrade to the next version to get any fixes they come up with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of our sayings round here has been &#8220;What does that Latin mean? Ex = out of; Libris = library. So let&#8217;s get them out of the library!&#8221;</p>
<p>The amount of bugs in the latest major Voyager upgrade in pretty amazing. And it&#8217;s continually disappointing to be told that you have to upgrade to the next version to get any fixes they come up with.</p>
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		<title>By: Some comments on SIRSI&#8217;s position paper on Open Source ILMS &#124; Librarians Matter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Some comments on SIRSI&#8217;s position paper on Open Source ILMS &#124; Librarians Matter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] set up a google document for anyone who wanted to add annotations.  He has blogged about this: Sirsi-Dynix vs Open Source Software [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] set up a google document for anyone who wanted to add annotations.  He has blogged about this: Sirsi-Dynix vs Open Source Software [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Tomlinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Tomlinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I was at Internet Librarian last week, and somehow I resisted the urge to go up to Stephen Abrams and ask him how it was that he was such a brilliant person, but SIRSI is just such a bad system. I know it takes more than one person to run a company, but around here one of our favorite sayings is &quot;SIRSI sucks!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I was at Internet Librarian last week, and somehow I resisted the urge to go up to Stephen Abrams and ask him how it was that he was such a brilliant person, but SIRSI is just such a bad system. I know it takes more than one person to run a company, but around here one of our favorite sayings is &#8220;SIRSI sucks!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Sharpe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Sharpe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My own dealings w/ Sirsi-Dynix are minimal, and I only know Stephen Abram by reputation through my friends (such as you, Mr. Griffey). All that aside, he is a &lt;strong&gt;vendor&lt;/strong&gt;. It is not in his best interest to promote open source software unless it benefits Sirsi-Dynix. This is simply another example of a paradigm shift for which vendors and entire industries are ill prepared. I appreciate his willingness to have a &quot;constructive debate&quot;, as long as librarians understand from the start that its only logical for him to have this point of view. The paper is what it is: a marketing tool from a corporation that wants to sell you an ILS, not encourage you to build your own!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My own dealings w/ Sirsi-Dynix are minimal, and I only know Stephen Abram by reputation through my friends (such as you, Mr. Griffey). All that aside, he is a <strong>vendor</strong>. It is not in his best interest to promote open source software unless it benefits Sirsi-Dynix. This is simply another example of a paradigm shift for which vendors and entire industries are ill prepared. I appreciate his willingness to have a &#8220;constructive debate&#8221;, as long as librarians understand from the start that its only logical for him to have this point of view. The paper is what it is: a marketing tool from a corporation that wants to sell you an ILS, not encourage you to build your own!</p>
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		<title>By: Colleen Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colleen Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Proprietary software has more features. Period. Proprietary software is much more user-friendly. &quot; Ahem. Knowing, as I do, the issues that our ILS administrator has with getting a straight answer out of Sirsi-Dynix when the shit hits the fan on these &quot;features,&quot; I really wouldn&#039;t choose that point to brag about. it&#039;s only a &quot;feature&quot; if you support it when people try to use it and it goes *boink*. Also, it&#039;s tough to take an anti-OSS argument seriously when it comes from someone employed by an ILS vendor and isn&#039;t backed by actual data. (BN: I have nothing against Abram, he&#039;s a fun guy and nothing but nice so far as I know.) And the opportunity cost of staying with an ILS that doesnt evolve as you need it to - which no one can argue has been the case with nearly all vendor-ILSs and certainly also with Sirsi - is that you mutate your workflows to fit the flawed system, instead of fitting the system to the most efficient workflow. Harroomph to the paper, I say. I&#039;d be happy to read something with more data &amp; trufax with citations, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Proprietary software has more features. Period. Proprietary software is much more user-friendly. &#8221; Ahem. Knowing, as I do, the issues that our ILS administrator has with getting a straight answer out of Sirsi-Dynix when the shit hits the fan on these &#8220;features,&#8221; I really wouldn&#8217;t choose that point to brag about. it&#8217;s only a &#8220;feature&#8221; if you support it when people try to use it and it goes *boink*. Also, it&#8217;s tough to take an anti-OSS argument seriously when it comes from someone employed by an ILS vendor and isn&#8217;t backed by actual data. (BN: I have nothing against Abram, he&#8217;s a fun guy and nothing but nice so far as I know.) And the opportunity cost of staying with an ILS that doesnt evolve as you need it to &#8211; which no one can argue has been the case with nearly all vendor-ILSs and certainly also with Sirsi &#8211; is that you mutate your workflows to fit the flawed system, instead of fitting the system to the most efficient workflow. Harroomph to the paper, I say. I&#8217;d be happy to read something with more data &amp; trufax with citations, though.</p>
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